Talk:Magic Rods

Price scaling for rods by spell level

• 0th level spell, any CL: use 0.25 in Nudge-Price field.
• 1st level spell, any CL: use 0.375 in Nudge-Price field.
• 2nd level spell, any CL: use 0.6 in Nudge-Price field.
• 3rd level spell, any CL: use 0.75 in Nudge-Price field.
• 4th level spell, any CL: use 0.9 in Nudge-Price field.

Rod Costs By Creator Level

Spell Level	CL 1	CL 2	CL 3	CL 4	CL 5	CL 6	CL 7	CL 8	CL 9	CL 10
0th	500	1,125	1,875	2,750	3,750	5,000	6,250	8,000	10,000	12,500
1st	750	1,688	2,813	4,125	5,625	7,500	9,375	12,000	15,000	18,750
2nd	-	-	4,500	6,600	9,000	12,000	15,000	19,200	24,000	30,000
3rd	-	-	-	-	11,250	15,000	18,750	24,000	30,000	37,500
4th	-	-	-	-	-	-	22,500	28,800	36,000	45,000

Spell Level	CL 11	CL 12	CL 13	CL 14	CL 15	CL 16	CL 17	CL 18	CL 19	CL 20
0th	15,500	18,750	22,750	28,000	35,500	48,250	65,000	90,000	120,000	160,000
1st	23,250	28,125	34,125	42,000	53,250	72,375	97,500	135,000	180,000	240,000
2nd	37,200	45,000	54,600	67,200	85,200	115,800	156,000	216,000	288,000	384,000
3rd	46,500	56,250	68,250	84,000	106,500	144,750	195,000	270,000	360,000	480,000
4th	55,800	67,500	81,900	100,800	127,800	173,700	234,000	324,000	432,000	576,000

Spell Level	CL 21	CL 22	CL 23	CL 24	CL 25	CL 26	CL 27	CL 28	CL 29	CL 30
0th	212,500	285,000	377,500	500,000	650,000	875,000	1,150,000	1,550,000	2,050,000	2,725,000
1st	318,750	427,500	566,250	750,000	975,000	1,312,500	1,725,000	2,325,000	3,075,000	4,087,500
2nd	510,000	684,000	906,000	1,200,000	1,560,000	2,100,000	2,760,000	3,720,000	4,920,000	6,540,000
3rd	637,500	855,000	1,132,500	1,500,000	1,950,000	2,625,000	3,450,000	4,650,000	6,150,000	8,175,000
4th	765,000	1,026,000	1,359,000	1,800,000	2,340,000	3,150,000	4,140,000	5,580,000	7,380,000	9,810,000

Spell Level	CL 31	CL 32	CL 33	CL 34	CL 35
0th	3,600,000	4,725,000	6,250,000	8,275,000	11,025,000
1st	5,400,000	7,087,500	9,375,000	12,412,500	16,537,500
2nd	8,640,000	11,340,000	15,000,000	19,860,000	26,460,000
3rd	10,800,000	14,175,000	18,750,000	24,825,000	33,075,000
4th	12,960,000	17,010,000	22,500,000	29,790,000	39,690,000

Whitelist of Rods

Rod Name	Spell	Spell Level
Rod of Blessings	Remove Curse	4
Rod of Borrowing	False Life	2
Rod of Bravery	Remove Fear	1
Rod of Breakstride	Stumble Gap	1
Rod of Brilliance	Unbearable Brightness	4
Rod of Capering	Monkey Fish	1
Rod of Censure	Forbid Action	1
Rod of Chains	Chain of Perdition	3
Rod of Clear Water	Create Water	0
Rod of Coercion	Hold Person	3
Rod of Comfort	Bed of Iron	1
Rod of Compulsion	Lock Gaze	1
Rod of Crashing	Force Punch	3
Rod of Critical Infliction	Inflict Critical Wounds	4
Rod of Crushing	Conjure Deadfall	4
Rod of Dismissal	Dismissal	4
Rod of Divine Luck	Divine Favor	1
Rod of Dominion	Charm Person	1
Rod of Earthen Joy	Stoneskin	3
Rod of Eddies	Aqueous Orb	3
Rod of Emanations	Detect Magic	0
Rod of Fairies	Dancing Lights	0
Rod of Fear	Cause Fear	1
Rod of Feathers	Feather Fall	1
Rod of Fiery Punishments	Burning Gaze	2
Rod of Forceful Mercy	Compassionate Ally	2
Rod of Forging	Magic Weapon	1
Rod of Fulmination	Fiery Shuriken	2
Rod of Gasping	Aboleth's Lung	2
Rod of Geysers	Hydraulic Push	1
Rod of Ghouls	Ghoul Touch	2
Rod of Greater Bonfires	Flaming Sphere, Greater	4
Rod of Greater Borrowing	False Life, Greater	4
Rod of Greater Repairs	Make Whole, Greater	4
Rod of Hearths	Secure Shelter	4
Rod of Holy Strikes	Divine Trident	2
Rod of Icy Blasts	Ice Storm	4
Rod of Illumination	Light	0
Rod of Impact	Gravity Bow	1
Rod of Lamplighters Bane	Dust of Twilight	2
Rod of Lesser Repairs	Mending	0
Rod of Life Sharing	Life Pact	2
Rod of Marvel	Prestidigitation	0
Rod of Mesmerism	Hypnotism	1
Rod of Mights Bane	Unravel Destiny	3
Rod of Mothers Mercy	Touch of Mercy	2
Rod of Mourning	Overwhelming Grief	4
Rod of Nails	Pellet Blast	3
Rod of Prisms	Rainbow Pattern	4
Rod of Quaking	Tremor Blast	2
Rod of Quiet Night	Rest Eternal	4
Rod of Rainbows	Color Spray	1
Rod of Reaching	Hand of the Magus	0
Rod of Rebuke	Admonishing Ray	2
Rod of Repairs	Make Whole	2
Rod of Repose	Gentle Repose	2
Rod of Revelation	Invisibility Purge	3
Rod of Scares	Scare	2
Rod of Searing Sunbeams	Scorching Ray	2
Rod of Shadowy Terrors	Shadow Barbs	4
Rod of Shelter	Tiny Hut	3
Rod of Shock	Shocking Grasp	1
Rod of Shoveling	Expeditious Excavation	1
Rod of Silver Motes	Silver Darts	3
Rod of Slickness	Grease	1
Rod of Smiting	Chaos Hammer	4
Rod of Soothing	Stabilize	0
Rod of Sounds	Ghost Sound	0
Rod of Sparking Cataclysm	Ball Lightning	4
Rod of Speaking	Ventriloquism	1
Rod of Standing Flames	Pillar of Fire	4
Rod of Startlement	Ear-Piercing Scream	1
Rod of Storms	Lightning Bolt	3
Rod of Strategies	Know the Enemy	1

Other possible ideas for rods or staves:

rod of thunderous force = slam power as written, force attack power(like rod of ice, melee touch attack), debuff power to inflict a status (blind to sound, rattle, etc), scale as stampede stomper? fold in powers of rod of thunder and lightning at the top end?

rod of cancellation = only way to affect items? scaling Disjoin effect, can be charged or X times per moon/day.  if used to touch magic items, deals a point of Sunder to them.  at the upper end, will affect artifacts or other Potens Machenvari! combine with rod of ruin/rod of negation? both!

rod of wonder = erghh. this is super-iconic to a certain type of player. should we keep it for its wacky fun potential? i'd almost want to go back to wand of wonder, but see the wand discussion page for thoughts about rod vs wand. Pathfinder has no wands except spell effects, which is simpler, but kind of soulless.

rod of the python/viper = functions as a summon monster, always makes a snake-shaped thing.  scale as summon monster 1, 5, 9.  only three items required. viper version adds poison damage to snake. Note: possible to make a LOT of variations, by adding on Patterns. Rod of the Great Worm (great Creature pattern), Rod of the Frost Snake, Rod of the Coursing Viper, Rod of the Mighty Python, etc, etc, etc.  

trap-stealers rod = love the optics of this. its a super-crowbar, a set of super-thieves-tools, AND it lets you move traps around. scaling is 1-5, which is the plus on the crowbar (plus to might checks, extra sunders), plus on the thieves tools, and the trap thing is just wonderful, maybe scale it by size {less than one foot, less than one square, one square, four squares, nine squares).  we should DEFINITELY rename it to 'Magic Crowbar"

rod of balance = as written, scaling bonus of +1 to +3, adds distance to jumps, etc.  include rod of escape functions as scales higher?  hrrrm.

sapling rod = scale properly, include oasis, planar adaption, functions as high level scaling, fold in rod of nettles and rod of security functions

suzerain scepter = love this thing, and should be tied into the settlement rules/powers, and scaled properly. its LITERALLY the key to the city

fiery nimbus rod = SUPER CLUB. as written, scales, change to touch attack? lets the clothies have an ACTUAL melee weapon!

rod of splendor = love the optics of this! scale properly, possibly combine with the suzerain scepter and rod of rulership

rod of absorption = this thing has always been a bit of a stinker, but if its possible to fuel mana burning with it, its suddenly HUGE

rod of flailing = kind of a dog, but allow it to change to any kind of a flail with throwing and returning, scale it properly, all usable with only a club proficiency. suddenly, this is pretty nice indeed.

rod of lordly might = scale properly, usable with club, battleaxe, or any spear proficiency. this thing was always awesome, and is now MORE awesome